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	<title>Comments on: elderly fried teenage roses</title>
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	<description>apparently there are 34 better blogs about wordpress than this. you should probably go and read one of them instead.</description>
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		<title>By: WordPress.com Blocked in Turkey &#171; The Weifang Radish</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2007/06/15/elderly-fried-teenage-roses/#comment-76445</link>
		<dc:creator>WordPress.com Blocked in Turkey &#171; The Weifang Radish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] team (especially their forum volunteers, who while are quite WordPress literate can be offensive and rude to those they disagree with, &#8220;I would think that bloggers were intellegent folks. Guess [...]</description>
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		<title>By: drmike</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2007/06/15/elderly-fried-teenage-roses/#comment-69980</link>
		<dc:creator>drmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What bothers me about the losing of the feed stats is the volunteers in the support forum were the ones who took the abuse when Matt turned off the comments.

Also bothered me that folks didn&#039;t read the &quot;send in feedback and make your complaint there, not here&quot; posts.  I would think that bloggers were intellegent folks.  Guess not.

What also bothered me is that it&#039;s common knowledge that they were broken, didn&#039;t return the correct numbers and folks still wanted to see them.

Oh, by the way, thanks for the Not Staff logos. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers me about the losing of the feed stats is the volunteers in the support forum were the ones who took the abuse when Matt turned off the comments.</p>
<p>Also bothered me that folks didn&#8217;t read the &#8220;send in feedback and make your complaint there, not here&#8221; posts.  I would think that bloggers were intellegent folks.  Guess not.</p>
<p>What also bothered me is that it&#8217;s common knowledge that they were broken, didn&#8217;t return the correct numbers and folks still wanted to see them.</p>
<p>Oh, by the way, thanks for the Not Staff logos. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: brightfeather</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2007/06/15/elderly-fried-teenage-roses/#comment-68947</link>
		<dc:creator>brightfeather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the end result will be FeedBurner integrated support so that we can just use the FeedBurner (now owned by Google) stats packages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the end result will be FeedBurner integrated support so that we can just use the FeedBurner (now owned by Google) stats packages.</p>
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		<title>By: engtech</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2007/06/15/elderly-fried-teenage-roses/#comment-68917</link>
		<dc:creator>engtech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m hoping they offer proper FeedBurner integrated support so that we can just use the FeedBurner (now owned by Google) stats packages.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/#comment-59811&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s more on why FeedBurner stats are so much better than the old wordpress.com stats&lt;/a&gt; (posted around a week before the wordpress.com feed stats were removed)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hoping they offer proper FeedBurner integrated support so that we can just use the FeedBurner (now owned by Google) stats packages.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/#comment-59811" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s more on why FeedBurner stats are so much better than the old wordpress.com stats</a> (posted around a week before the wordpress.com feed stats were removed)</p>
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		<title>By: tuffy</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2007/06/15/elderly-fried-teenage-roses/#comment-68594</link>
		<dc:creator>tuffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Kevin said. The reason I&#039;m interested in feed stats is that I regard those people as loyal readers. My blog stats are more a reflection of who found my site thru search engines or referrals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Kevin said. The reason I&#8217;m interested in feed stats is that I regard those people as loyal readers. My blog stats are more a reflection of who found my site thru search engines or referrals.</p>
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		<title>By: that girl again</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2007/06/15/elderly-fried-teenage-roses/#comment-68258</link>
		<dc:creator>that girl again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why don’t they just throw in the towel already?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um, because their demographic loves stats so much? :)

You are asking Automattic to devote further time and resources to a task they have just admitted they have already failed. They wouldn&#039;t have removed the feature if they seriously thought it was fixable. While I don&#039;t think the withdrawal was handled particularly well, in retrospect I don&#039;t really know what else they could have done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why don’t they just throw in the towel already?</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, because their demographic loves stats so much? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You are asking Automattic to devote further time and resources to a task they have just admitted they have already failed. They wouldn&#8217;t have removed the feature if they seriously thought it was fixable. While I don&#8217;t think the withdrawal was handled particularly well, in retrospect I don&#8217;t really know what else they could have done.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2007/06/15/elderly-fried-teenage-roses/#comment-68210</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 04:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similarly, there are so many bots and spiders and aggregators and cachers out there that blog stats are pretty much a pipe dream. Why don&#039;t they just throw in the towel already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similarly, there are so many bots and spiders and aggregators and cachers out there that blog stats are pretty much a pipe dream. Why don&#8217;t they just throw in the towel already?</p>
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		<title>By: that girl again</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2007/06/15/elderly-fried-teenage-roses/#comment-68132</link>
		<dc:creator>that girl again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I would like to see WordPress.com give a high priority to fixing up the feed stats code and re-implementing it within a few weeks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Currently I think they&#039;re giving a high priority to implementing flashier, more visible stuff like related posts and Adsense widgets. Something had to give. Besides, there are so many feed readers and feed formats out there that accurate feed stats are pretty much a pipe dream. They must have wasted a lot of time trying to fix it before giving it up as a bad job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I would like to see WordPress.com give a high priority to fixing up the feed stats code and re-implementing it within a few weeks.</p></blockquote>
<p>Currently I think they&#8217;re giving a high priority to implementing flashier, more visible stuff like related posts and Adsense widgets. Something had to give. Besides, there are so many feed readers and feed formats out there that accurate feed stats are pretty much a pipe dream. They must have wasted a lot of time trying to fix it before giving it up as a bad job.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2007/06/15/elderly-fried-teenage-roses/#comment-68100</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t until after feed stats were taken down that we learned they were so inaccurate. I for one, would like them back, but of course only if they are pretty accurate. I would like to see WordPress.com give a high priority to fixing up the feed stats code and re-implementing it within a few weeks.

I think you are wrong when you suggest that it is mostly newbies who would care about feed stats. I think newbies would be more concerned about blog stats and more technically inclined and longer-term users would be more concerned about feed stats. My reason for thinking this is that feeds are a slightly more technically advanced topic and a much newer concept to most people than webpages. I think feed stats, if properly implemented, can give a user an idea as to how many loyal readers he has better than blog stats. For example, if a user has around 100 hits a day on blog stats for a few months and then about 200 hits for two weeks he might think that his readership has gone up. And one would expect that to be reflected in feed stats too, people who read one&#039;s blog via a feedreader being a subset of overall readers. However, if he did not see the feed stats increase, he could probably safely assume that his newfound readership is going to be shortlived, and after two weeks time he&#039;d probably see a decrease in the number of page hits he gets. In other words, feed stats can be a more stable measure of readership than blog stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t until after feed stats were taken down that we learned they were so inaccurate. I for one, would like them back, but of course only if they are pretty accurate. I would like to see WordPress.com give a high priority to fixing up the feed stats code and re-implementing it within a few weeks.</p>
<p>I think you are wrong when you suggest that it is mostly newbies who would care about feed stats. I think newbies would be more concerned about blog stats and more technically inclined and longer-term users would be more concerned about feed stats. My reason for thinking this is that feeds are a slightly more technically advanced topic and a much newer concept to most people than webpages. I think feed stats, if properly implemented, can give a user an idea as to how many loyal readers he has better than blog stats. For example, if a user has around 100 hits a day on blog stats for a few months and then about 200 hits for two weeks he might think that his readership has gone up. And one would expect that to be reflected in feed stats too, people who read one&#8217;s blog via a feedreader being a subset of overall readers. However, if he did not see the feed stats increase, he could probably safely assume that his newfound readership is going to be shortlived, and after two weeks time he&#8217;d probably see a decrease in the number of page hits he gets. In other words, feed stats can be a more stable measure of readership than blog stats.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2007/06/15/elderly-fried-teenage-roses/#comment-68078</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;feed stats were elderly fried teenage roses?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m trying to combine those into something that makes sense.  Maybe feed stats were a  sunburned teenager with progeria with a family who would benefit from his death (life insurance policy?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>feed stats were elderly fried teenage roses?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to combine those into something that makes sense.  Maybe feed stats were a  sunburned teenager with progeria with a family who would benefit from his death (life insurance policy?).</p>
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