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	<description>apparently there are 34 better blogs about wordpress than this. you should probably go and read one of them instead.</description>
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		<title>By: Quod Licet Iovi? &#171; JAWW (beta)</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/definitely-yet-another-car-crash/#comment-85677</link>
		<dc:creator>Quod Licet Iovi? &#171; JAWW (beta)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was repeatedly saying that I’ve never been able to see ads on the notorious Global Tags™ pages for myself. Now it’s changed, I do stand corrected in this post because That Girl was always right on money [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was repeatedly saying that I’ve never been able to see ads on the notorious Global Tags™ pages for myself. Now it’s changed, I do stand corrected in this post because That Girl was always right on money [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Impossible To Like Possibly Related Links &#171; bloggerdygook</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/definitely-yet-another-car-crash/#comment-85610</link>
		<dc:creator>Impossible To Like Possibly Related Links &#171; bloggerdygook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: options</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/definitely-yet-another-car-crash/#comment-85595</link>
		<dc:creator>options</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, yes, &quot;Kings can do everything!&quot; shat Google&#039;s index is an overhead which is very well covered by the revenues from advertisers.

while I do believe that the following brilliant explanation of yours makes a totally perfect sense: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;However, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=16171&amp;page=2&amp;replies=37#post-124441&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;forcing every wordpress.com user to link to the tags pages does substantially increase the chance of said tag pages turning up in Google searches&lt;/a&gt;. More people coming in from Google = more people seeing the ads. The baffled wordpress.com users are just collateral damage.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

at the same time, I should say that I still could never see a single ad on tag pages *by myself* (this, of course, doesn&#039;t mean they aren&#039;t there at all, but anyway).

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as much I&#039;m really sick of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=27423&amp;replies=15#post-198319&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the misleading propaganda on the fora&lt;/a&gt;, as I am having to repeat any reasonable arguments in vain.

please, the only and main reason &quot;WP.com does things this [fucking] way&quot; (denying any compromises) is just MONEY and GREED!

&lt;blockquote&gt;Blogs marked private are allowed to opt out because their linkbacks won&#039;t count for anything in Google. Mature blogs are not, because &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=9298&amp;replies=14#post-124564&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the global tag links were never intended to be useful for anyone other than Automattic&lt;/a&gt;. So what if they&#039;re forced to link to pages that have nothing to do with them?&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, yes, &#8220;Kings can do everything!&#8221; shat Google&#8217;s index is an overhead which is very well covered by the revenues from advertisers.</p>
<p>while I do believe that the following brilliant explanation of yours makes a totally perfect sense: </p>
<blockquote><p>However, <a href="http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=16171&amp;page=2&amp;replies=37#post-124441" rel="nofollow">forcing every wordpress.com user to link to the tags pages does substantially increase the chance of said tag pages turning up in Google searches</a>. More people coming in from Google = more people seeing the ads. The baffled wordpress.com users are just collateral damage.</p></blockquote>
<p>at the same time, I should say that I still could never see a single ad on tag pages *by myself* (this, of course, doesn&#8217;t mean they aren&#8217;t there at all, but anyway).</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
as much I&#8217;m really sick of <a href="http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=27423&amp;replies=15#post-198319" rel="nofollow">the misleading propaganda on the fora</a>, as I am having to repeat any reasonable arguments in vain.</p>
<p>please, the only and main reason &#8220;WP.com does things this [fucking] way&#8221; (denying any compromises) is just MONEY and GREED!</p>
<blockquote><p>Blogs marked private are allowed to opt out because their linkbacks won&#8217;t count for anything in Google. Mature blogs are not, because <a href="http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=9298&amp;replies=14#post-124564" rel="nofollow">the global tag links were never intended to be useful for anyone other than Automattic</a>. So what if they&#8217;re forced to link to pages that have nothing to do with them?</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: that girl again</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/definitely-yet-another-car-crash/#comment-85593</link>
		<dc:creator>that girl again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 13:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the fact that they&#039;re technically not 404s mean it&#039;s OK to serve ads on them? (The question is probably moot, since Google seem to be in the habit of letting wordpress.com do whatever they like.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the fact that they&#8217;re technically not 404s mean it&#8217;s OK to serve ads on them? (The question is probably moot, since Google seem to be in the habit of letting wordpress.com do whatever they like.)</p>
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		<title>By: options</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/definitely-yet-another-car-crash/#comment-85591</link>
		<dc:creator>options</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 10:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TGA wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
  They (autogenerated links) are not there to redirect traffic or send people to other content they might find interesting; they&#8217;re only saying that to bribe people into continuing to host the links. They exist to build PR for wordpress.com blogs and Sphere&#8217;s external partners.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

absolutely!

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  And the majority are going to be identical &#8217;sorry, no results&#8217; pages. And 404s, if anything, are going to have more ad clickthroughs than pages with actual content.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

unfortunately, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=16171&amp;page=2&amp;replies=40#post-124532&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;those &#8217;sorry, no results&#8217; are not even 404s&lt;/a&gt; (as they should be). instead, they are full blown 200 OK pages.

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engtech, perhaps you would like more the following (truly honest) argument regarding opting-out of the Global Tags:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  ...basically global tags are important to the WordPress.com model. They help to drive traffic to individual blogs as well as WordPress.com as a whole. Tightly linking blogs together like this is a good search engine voodoo. 

  Allowing people to opt-out could dilute the model&#039;s potency. Hardly you&#039;ll see this change any time soon.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TGA wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>
  They (autogenerated links) are not there to redirect traffic or send people to other content they might find interesting; they&#8217;re only saying that to bribe people into continuing to host the links. They exist to build PR for wordpress.com blogs and Sphere&#8217;s external partners.
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<p>absolutely!</p>
<blockquote><p>
  And the majority are going to be identical &#8217;sorry, no results&#8217; pages. And 404s, if anything, are going to have more ad clickthroughs than pages with actual content.
</p></blockquote>
<p>unfortunately, <a href="http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=16171&amp;page=2&amp;replies=40#post-124532" rel="nofollow">those &#8217;sorry, no results&#8217; are not even 404s</a> (as they should be). instead, they are full blown 200 OK pages.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>engtech, perhaps you would like more the following (truly honest) argument regarding opting-out of the Global Tags:</p>
<blockquote><p>
  &#8230;basically global tags are important to the WordPress.com model. They help to drive traffic to individual blogs as well as WordPress.com as a whole. Tightly linking blogs together like this is a good search engine voodoo. </p>
<p>  Allowing people to opt-out could dilute the model&#8217;s potency. Hardly you&#8217;ll see this change any time soon.
</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: that girl again</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/definitely-yet-another-car-crash/#comment-85562</link>
		<dc:creator>that girl again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;quite honestly it&#039;s just better for them to have their own domain&#039;? Yeah, &lt;em&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/em&gt; why you&#039;re advertising in people&#039;s dashboards. It&#039;s entirely for their own good, and the fact that you stand to gain $15 per year recurring from everyone who bites has nothing at all to do with it.

The thing that really boggles the brain is that he&#039;s not even trying to slide that past penguins or Snow Lovers; he&#039;s talking to forum volunteers who have been around the site for a while and expecting them not to recognise it as bullshit. Maybe he just assumes that anyone still helping out there must be stupid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;quite honestly it&#8217;s just better for them to have their own domain&#8217;? Yeah, <em>that&#8217;s</em> why you&#8217;re advertising in people&#8217;s dashboards. It&#8217;s entirely for their own good, and the fact that you stand to gain $15 per year recurring from everyone who bites has nothing at all to do with it.</p>
<p>The thing that really boggles the brain is that he&#8217;s not even trying to slide that past penguins or Snow Lovers; he&#8217;s talking to forum volunteers who have been around the site for a while and expecting them not to recognise it as bullshit. Maybe he just assumes that anyone still helping out there must be stupid?</p>
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		<title>By: timethief</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/definitely-yet-another-car-crash/#comment-85559</link>
		<dc:creator>timethief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And ladies and gents we now have dashboard tips = advertising to purchase a domain and domain mapping  ... 
Yup, it&#039;s not a bug; it&#039;s a feature LOL :D
http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=27466&amp;replies=17#post-197133</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And ladies and gents we now have dashboard tips = advertising to purchase a domain and domain mapping  &#8230;<br />
Yup, it&#8217;s not a bug; it&#8217;s a feature LOL <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=27466&amp;replies=17#post-197133" rel="nofollow">http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=27466&amp;replies=17#post-197133</a></p>
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		<title>By: timethief</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/definitely-yet-another-car-crash/#comment-85558</link>
		<dc:creator>timethief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Matt has replied to the issue here ... lol :D
http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=27500&amp;replies=3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Matt has replied to the issue here &#8230; lol <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=27500&amp;replies=3" rel="nofollow">http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=27500&amp;replies=3</a></p>
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		<title>By: What The FUCK is this? &#171; Collin&#8217;s Geek Rants</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/definitely-yet-another-car-crash/#comment-85555</link>
		<dc:creator>What The FUCK is this? &#171; Collin&#8217;s Geek Rants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don&#8217;t even get me started on the Possibly Related Posts thing.  I think between TGA and the forum threads, the whole subject has been pretty much covered.  As if it needed explained, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] don&#8217;t even get me started on the Possibly Related Posts thing.  I think between TGA and the forum threads, the whole subject has been pretty much covered.  As if it needed explained, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: that girl again</title>
		<link>http://wank.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/definitely-yet-another-car-crash/#comment-85554</link>
		<dc:creator>that girl again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen anyone claiming a major traffic boost from this feature. I don&#039;t think even Automattic can seriously believe large numbers of people are actually going to &lt;em&gt;click&lt;/em&gt; on these autogenerated links. They&#039;re not there to redirect traffic or send people to other content they might find interesting; they&#039;re only saying that to bribe people into continuing to host the links. They exist to build PR for wordpress.com blogs and sphere&#039;s external partners. 

If Automattic want to prove they&#039;re doing this for users&#039; benefit rather than for Google&#039;s, they can no-follow the links or let people use the feature locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen anyone claiming a major traffic boost from this feature. I don&#8217;t think even Automattic can seriously believe large numbers of people are actually going to <em>click</em> on these autogenerated links. They&#8217;re not there to redirect traffic or send people to other content they might find interesting; they&#8217;re only saying that to bribe people into continuing to host the links. They exist to build PR for wordpress.com blogs and sphere&#8217;s external partners. </p>
<p>If Automattic want to prove they&#8217;re doing this for users&#8217; benefit rather than for Google&#8217;s, they can no-follow the links or let people use the feature locally.</p>
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