in which i pay a brief visit to trac

Cunningly, Andy gets things moving on the defaultification of Sandbox. The only issue I can see with his proposed changes is that it’s potentially confusing to have the default stylesheet in a different directory from the default templates. Yes, I’d prefer to pull templates from a different directory, and I’d certainly prefer not have a stylesheet in there which I’d have to overrule; but the majority of theme developers don’t seem to be comfortable with the idea (witness all the Kubrick clones which pointlessly include the same files everyone already has in their installation), and that leads me to think the majority of end-users may not like the separation either.

The other problem I can see is that it will still look like Kubrick. But that’s no doubt because Andy made the Kubrick stylesheet and he didn’t make any of the k2 ones, and how would you decide which of the k2 versions to implement? The obvious solution would be for Scott to do something minimalist, but this would not satisfy Matt’s hunger for big blue headers so is probably out of the question.

The other other problem is that I can’t find any trace of Sandbox in the Sandbox branch yet. Apart from the name. Well, it’s a start.

Meanwhile, let us celebrate the end of the longrunning backup plugin wank: Matt’s kicked it out of core, not with a bang or indeed a wp-hackers announcement, but with the following whimper:

This has been a source of security probs, and is mostly replaced by the XML import/export now.

I thought making wp-content writable was perfectly safe and anyone who said it wasn’t was lying… ah well, never mind.

6 Comments »

  1. westi said

    Yes, I’d prefer to pull templates from a different directory, and I’d certainly prefer not have a stylesheet in there which I’d have to overrule; but the majority of theme developers don’t seem to be comfortable with the idea (witness all the Kubrick clones which pointlessly include the same files everyone already has in their installation), and that leads me to think the majority of end-users may not like the separation either.

    I think the possible reason for people not using this level of seperation is that people don’t necessarily realise it exists.

  2. Ah, but why don’t they know it exists? Because it’s not very well-documented. Why isn’t it well-documented? Probably because the docs/support people think it’s confusing and don’t want to encourage it. This is a more charitable reason than ‘they couldn’t be bothered’, and I also happen to think it’s true.

  3. adam said

    i think it’s easily a better solution, more confusing or not. having themes that only use style.css and functions.php will be better in the long run, even if it takes the docs a year to catch up.

    the arts and craftsy macaroni gluers who have been including all the template files haven’t been terribly understanding of the existing documentation anyway (much the same way the k2 modders don’t). if the default style (kubrick) only has 2 files for them to repackage, that’s a Good Thing. That will lead to less bloated themes in the future.

    The obvious solution would be for Scott to do something minimalist, but this would not satisfy Matt’s hunger for big blue headers so is probably out of the question.
    +1

  4. Matt said

    MUST EAT MORE BIG BLUE HEADERS!!1!

  5. […] Yesterday I proclaimed the end of the longrunning backup plugin wank, which was a little premature of me because I hadn’t bothered checking out what Skippy thought of the ripping out of his code in this unceremonious manner. […]

  6. Use my k2 for Sandbox!

    http://www.almosteffortless.com/wordpress/k2-lite-for-sandbox/

    See? Right there!

    *grin*

    By the by, I think the Sandbox functions should be part of the core, but that’s neither here nor there…

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