cruel like that

Two DoS attacks within the week. Lovely. I don’t know why infoworld are running round saying wordpress.com users were informed of the situation by email, since I neither got one nor would expect one. (I’d settle for a status page, as opposed to a sticky post on a forum which is DOWN :roll:) The likeliest scenario is that they emailed the VIPs. If I was paying that much I know I’d expect to be notified. It’s kind of sloppy journalism, though.

There’s not, of course, a whole lot you can do to prevent DoS attacks apart from crossing your fingers and hoping you don’t get another one. (Having two within a week doesn’t bode well, but then I am a pessimist by nature.) You can end up with a bunch of angry frustrated users through no fault of your own. The internet is cruel like that.

21 Comments »

  1. timethief said

    Mark has said that report of emailing users was wrong http://mystarbucks.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/wordpresscom-suffers-attack/#comment-3262

  2. Ray said

    Why is Matt the “WordPress Spokesman”? Isn’t that a not entirely accurate title?

  3. drmike said

    Isn’t that a not entirely accurate title?

    It came from Matt. You expect him to be accurate? Should know by now that’s not like him. I just add it to the list of lies he’s told.

  4. […] BOO!, wank I HAVE BEEN DEPRIVED OF MY ROLLEYES SMILEY GODDAMNIT. It’s not appearing on my last post or the last comment in which I used it even though the code is copy-pasted from another comment […]

  5. Is it just my imagination or have the comments been wiped from the infoworld article? And the article still says I got an email, which I still didn’t, and wordpress (through unofficial channels, mind) has agreed that I didn’t.

    Huh.

  6. Kissing Bandit said

    This may be paranoia speaking, but the reason why comments may have been wiped from the article and the article is still, inaccurately, representing that e-mails were sent to WP.com users is to play in Automattic’s favor.

    Although their own staff members have reported that e-mails weren’t sent out, how many “regular citizens” are going to click past the Yahoo! News article (which aggregated the original article) to search down the truth? Answer: not many, if any at all.

    Automattic looks like they’re on the ball and providing superior customer support while having the ability to fall back on the “we already said we didn’t send out e-mails and the article was wrong” argument when confronted about it.

    -KB

  7. Kissing Bandit said

    To further the point, it wouldn’t have been difficult for an Automattic staff member to pop into the article and leave a comment stating that e-mails weren’t actually sent to members and ask for the article to be corrected. Do you see any comments from Automattic staff? Yeah, didn’t think so.

    (Watch a comment mysteriously appear after my posting this.)

    -KB

  8. drmike said

    I see the comments on Infoworld. I asked for a retraction.

    They publish PC World. That alone should tell you that they’re not 100% most of the time. (They got caught publishing rewritten manufacturer’s press releases a large number of years back as their own research.)

  9. timethief said

    I don’t understand why inforworld have not retracted (corrected) the inaccurate information that they published. Who the source for the statement that emails had been sent out notifying wp.com users of the DoS attack remains under wraps but, I gave them the link and they can plainly see Mark Riley denying that this emailing took place.

  10. drmike said

    I don’t understand why inforworld have not retracted (corrected) the inaccurate information that they published.

    Because that means they would have to admit that they made a mistake and most media outlets try not to do that as it calls into question their other articles. (ie if they’re wrong about one article, then they may be wrong about others.)

    It’s nice that Mark made the correction on a blog post. I don’t see anyone from Automattic stepping forward to post a request to correct the article on infoWorld’s site. Again, we see the extreme lack of ethics that is standard for Automattic employees.

  11. Journalists get things wrong all the time. Whether it ever gets corrected depends on who their boss is and how much fuss is made by those affected. As KB points out, it’s not in Automattic’s interests any more than it is for infoworld for them to complain. The error makes them look good, and is only worth correcting when users start bitching ‘hey, where’s my email?’

    The irritating thing is that a whole bunch of blogs picked up on this misinformation and reproduced it without question because they think Yahoo! news is a reputable source. Whereas if I started making stuff up and presenting it as fact, then Automattic staff would be all over my comments like a rash, and fellow bloggers would report it with due scepticism. People are always bitching about how bloggers aren’t held to the same standards as professional journalists. If you ask me it’s the other way round.

  12. timethief said

    Please correct me if I’m wrong. Is it not the community that owns the code and Matt’s fork that owns Automattic and the WordPress.com brand? And, if so then what on earth does tellyworth mean? Who is “we”?

    We also give away our software for free so you can host it yourself and run whatever ads you wish: http://wordpress.org/
    http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=22818&replies=2

    If I am correct and not confused then, I think Mark Jacquith’s (sp?) idea of changing the name is spot on.

  13. timethief said

    Arrggghhh! I’m so sorry about the open strong tag above. {red-faced}

  14. options said

    dang, me is not much better than you TT.

    I’ve just posted an RTE output instead of the HTML version — so no links, no formatting.

    and I don’t even know should I be sorry for the dupe — not only there’s no comment preview, but nor I cannot delete that wrong copy of the comment myself.

    so, yeah, as it was my mistake indeed, then I am sorry. a bit.

    here’s one more try, hope it’s gonna be a nice one:
    ————————————————————–

    although I believe that “we” and the “community” oft are pretty much convertible terms in the doublespeak, I suppose that tellyworth, in the first place, referred to himself and the other staff of Automattic, which is, according to the GPL, indeed oblidged either to “give away” — i.e., to make available — the source code of WP, or change its license.

    WordPress™ is an “Automattic Production” (as you can read it in the every trac footer); since A. holds a copyright to the code they could perfectly legally distribute it for a fee (i.e., “charge a fee for the physical act of transferring a copy”) or even start doing it tomorrow [1].

    the community (as everyone else) in return can freely/liberally use [2] and/or contribute to the code/project (for gratis). oh, and also if the expectations of the community don’t meet with the Core Collective’s ones, then the community can anytime get the fork out; “for free” as well [3].

    since neither I’m a lawyer, nor a FLOSS development expert and I could be totally wrong, surely it’d be much wiser to consult with Lloyd, who definitely groks Open Source issues much better (particularly when they come down to the product of the nearest competitor).


    1. whether you or anyone else would be using it then (not to mention developing and other contributions) is another matter. but then again, please, remember what’s happened with MT when 6A changed its licensing plan.

    and is that a pure coincidence that WP inevitably started getting a tremendous support from a community at large (which supposedly ‘invested into the freedom‘) and became fairly popular exactly after that very case with MT?

    2. for any purpose, including a for-profit usage, source code modification and redistribution, under the terms of the GPL.

    3. provided, of course, a new forked branch title (as well as the domain names of related websites for project hosting) will have nothing to do with the WordPress™, a trademark of Automattic Inc.

  15. Steven said

    Yeah WP doesn’t have a comment preview feature, but apparently there is and it’s a plugin. 🙄

    For god sakes it should be included in with the software by default!

  16. wordpress is not an automatic project, trac is (it’s hosted on their servers). The copyright for wordpress is owned by the contributors (hundreds? thousands?). Automattic cannot change the license without the permission of every single contributor.

    mark jaquith explains well what the difference is with mt/6a

  17. by “..trac is..”, i mean the wordpress™ trac installation. trac itself is a production of edgewall software.

  18. This sort of slippage goes on a lot and many contributors are uncomfortable with it.

    Clearly Automattic believe it’s in their interests to be perceived as sole owners of the open-source project, because otherwise they’d have gone ahead and set up a separate non-profit foundation to take care of the .org side of things. Toni promised such a foundation in April 2006. It has not, of course, materialised: WordPress is a registered trademark of Automattic Inc, and all official WP-associated domains (.org, .com, automattic, akismet, bbpress) aren’t even registered to Automattic, they’re Matt’s personal property. I presume that this is on the advice of his lawyers (keeping assets out of Automattic Inc. to avoid tax? I have no idea). Either way, there’s nothing to stop him shutting down the whole lot tomorrow.

  19. drmike said

    Are they haven’t another DDoS attack currently? Took five minutes (I kid you not) just to get this page to load.

  20. drmike said

    My comment got eaten.

    It appears that wp.com may be under yet another DDoS attack. It’s taking eons for pages to load here and I’m still waiting for the forums to come up.

  21. timethief said

    There are multiple problems on the form today and that’s not surprsing because WOOO HOOO – it’s the weekend!

    Richard blogged about them here:
    http://opposablethumbz.wordpress.com/2008/03/08/wordpress-weekend-the-thirteenth-part-something4/

    There are two closed sticky posts at the head of the forum. We have heard no explanation with regard to this script staff have running on blogs that make our posts look like they have been edited when they haven’t. What is the script programmed to do? And why was it implemented? Your guess is as good as mine.

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